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Offline johns

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2005, 11:03:13 AM »
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quote:John, I sent you an email...MZ, I will be sending you one nxt

--Dori



If you want, you better resend... the email address I had for these forums I deleted when I moved my Smartermail to my new, new dedicated box.

John S.
PS- If you transfer email accounts from one dedicated to another dedicated always remember to **modify the mail DNS IP address for each domain in Smartermail**. You will save the hair loss I went through! Drove me to drinkin on News Years Day!
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2005, 11:08:30 AM »
well, that explains the kickback

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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2005, 07:42:40 PM »
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quote:John, I sent you an email...MZ, I will be sending you one nxt

--Dori



If you want, you better resend... the email address I had for these forums I deleted when I moved my Smartermail to my new, new dedicated box.

John S.
PS- If you transfer email accounts from one dedicated to another dedicated always remember to **modify the mail DNS IP address for each domain in Smartermail**. You will save the hair loss I went through! Drove me to drinkin on News Years Day!




In Smartermail, under domain settings, what DNS ip did you use.. the local IP of the box?

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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2005, 07:50:39 PM »
for my primary domain, I used the IP for the box for email and the web IP for mySQL and web but the web actually redirects to another site.

For my other domains I use one IP for each site and that IP shares email, stats, web and ftp.  Humm, that reads wrong ...each site has it's own IP but that IP is for everything associated with that domain.

--Dori

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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2005, 09:10:11 PM »
I was told (and that's the way I have it setup) the IP in the
SM domain settings should be set to whatever IP you have SM set to in IIS under Web Sites.

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In Smartermail, under domain settings, what DNS ip did you use.. the local IP of the box?

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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2005, 09:48:07 PM »
what about the two dns settings PRIMARY and SECONDARY in the Admin, under GENERAL SETTINGS?

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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2005, 10:31:46 PM »
I have those set to the two IP's that came with the dedicated, I'm using those IP's for ns1 and ns2

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what about the two dns settings PRIMARY and SECONDARY in the Admin, under GENERAL SETTINGS?

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2005, 03:19:48 AM »
Regarding email, you don't need a separate IP for each domain. SmarterMail uses one IP and this single IP can handle the 50 domains you're allowed to have with the version that comes with  CT dedicated offer. All you have to do is point (that is, create an A record) mail.domain1.com, mail.domain2.com, mail.domain3.com, etc. to your SmarterMail's IP, and set each domain's mx record to the corresponding mail.domainx.com you just defined.

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quote:Originally posted by dcoplien

for my primary domain, I used the IP for the box for email and the web IP for mySQL and web but the web actually redirects to another site.

For my other domains I use one IP for each site and that IP shares email, stats, web and ftp.  Humm, that reads wrong ...each site has it's own IP but that IP is for everything associated with that domain.

--Dori


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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2005, 01:19:35 PM »
Regarding reverse DNS:
Crystaltech is the owner of the block of IP's our dedicated servers are running on.  As such, when doing reverse DNS, it is Crystaltech's DNS servers that resolve an IP to a name.  This is the reason for the DNS editing tools in the online control panel.  Forward-DNS is done on your own dedicated server and its a good idea to create your own reverse DNS entries in case down the road Crystaltech decides they will delegate authority for IP blocks.

Regarding multiple IP's:
Each IP address routes to the same network card on the same machine, so it seems silly to me to lease a block of 8 more IP's.  Can someone give me a good case for needing the additional IP's?  Domain registrars want a primary and secondary DNS IP, hence the probable reason CT gives us 2 IP's to begin with.  IIS on a dedicated server uses host headers when properly configured, so additional IP's are unnecessary IMO.

If you really want to be anal about it, I suppose you could break up the logical functions (FTP/SMTP/POP3/HTTP/etc) into their own IP's, but since they all go to the same computer it just seems goofy to me.


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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2005, 03:05:25 PM »
These are my personal reasons, I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

If you are going to have only a few domains, host headers are fine.  If you have a large number of domains, you end up with a mighty long list of host headers.

An SPF record per domain is much easier to maintain than an SPF record with hundreds of MX records in one SPF record.

I use 1 IP for all my parked domains, one shared for mySQL and NS1, one shared for primary mail server and NS2, then all other webs have a unique IP.  $1 a month isn't all that much and it saves me time.  It also allows me to publish and test a web before I register a domain name.

--Dori

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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2005, 06:20:13 AM »
Mark,

What tool, did you use to create the graphic referenced below?

Thanks,

Jacques

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quote:Originally posted by Rigger82

I as a lowly web developer find myself neck deep in all this new server setup and frankly I have yet another layer of appreciation for the system admin types.

In an attempt to get my head around my current location in what feels like a vain attempt to get out of a maze Ive put together a graphic of what I believe my situation is at this moment.

Please have a look at the graphic found here
http://www.82ndassociation.org/CTSetup.gif

Im wondering if I have things setup right and if so, in order to get things all going to my new dedicated, do I have to have CT kill my shared DNS settings so that ns1 and ns2 at CT stop pointing to shared resources.

Thanks in advance... there really isnt a whole lot of guidence on step by step procedure of getting off shared and onto dedicated that Ive found so please feel free to educate me.

Mark Christianson
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2005, 08:05:00 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2005, 08:06:49 AM »
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That looks like Visio.

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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2005, 08:07:38 AM »
I used Microsoft Visio for the layouts I created.

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